Comments on: Easy come, easy go

By: the lone gunman

the lone gunman — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:00:46 +0000

Not cool, BFCs… I got all excited about the Pandora geek post… Oh well.

By: Not "The LG"

Not "The LG" — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:50:24 +0000

Eh, if they’re going to treat you like you are already doing that, then I guess you may as well do it.

People try and do things within the context of what’s permissable, then someone gets all in their face and sets them off.

Nicely done.

By: Derek

Derek — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:54:20 +0000

Wow, Comment Props! thanks Not LG!

The real irony of this situation is although pandora was never structured to download/rip the radio stream(s), this move has prompted a whole plethora of new “tools” to do just that!

By: Not "The LG"

Not "The LG" — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:51:31 +0000

Thanks egeek.

BTW, I’ve got a new rant topic, give me a call and will explain.

By: egeek

egeek — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:15:38 +0000

The original fee structure for broadcast music was a flat annual fee, plus a percentage of the profits made by the broadcaster. For a streaming internet radio site there probably wasn’t much profitability to ~~extort~~ collect on.

The new structure approved in July 2007 involved a fee per-song, per-listener, regardless of whether the site made any money or not. If I interpret that correctly an internet radio site would owe the flat fee x the number of listeners for each song. On top of that, the fees would be retroactive to January 2006.

XM and Sirius Radio were represented at the hearings to argue that since their costs of operation were so much higher, they should pay lower fees than internet radio. I think in this case they were trying to protect themselves more than oppress the little guys, although the demise of internet radio could mean more customers for satellite radio.

By: Not "The LG"

Not "The LG" — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:55:35 +0000

Nice rant.

Okay, so I’m very ungeek…and I make up words.

Anyway, any geekiness I may have comes only from people like you or Derek or my Lance W. So, I may sound like a complete dope…which if you ask “The LG” is very easy to do.

I digress.

I know nothing of Pandora.com except for what you wrote. Thus, my understanding was this was essentially online radio. Why not let it play? Did the site offer the technology to download the songs? Were XM and Sirius upset?

Down with the BFCs, unless it’s the one I’m working for and they’re paying me some big coin.